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Mishnayos Keilim Perek 18 Mishnah 1

כלים פרק י"ח משנה א׳

1

A wooden chest: Beth Shammai says: it is measured on the inside; And Bet Hillel says: on the outside. Both agree that the thickness of the legs and the thickness of the rim are not included in the measurement. Rabbi Yose says: both agree that the thickness of the legs and the thickness of the rim are included in the measurement, but the space between them is not included. Rabbi Shimon Shezuri ruled: if the legs are one handbreadth high the space between them is not included in the measurement, otherwise it is included.

הַשִּׁדָּה, בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים, נִמְדֶּדֶת מִבִּפְנִים. וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים, נִמְדֶּדֶת מִבַּחוּץ. מוֹדִים אֵלּוּ וָאֵלּוּ שֶׁאֵין עֳבִי הָרַגְלַיִם וָעֳבִי לִזְבְּזִין נִמְדָּד. רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר, מוֹדִים שֶׁעֳבִי הָרַגְלַיִם וָעֳבִי לִזְבְּזִין נִמְדָּד, וּבֵינֵיהֶם אֵינוֹ נִמְדָּד. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן שְׁזוּרִי אוֹמֵר, אִם הָיוּ הָרַגְלַיִם גְּבוֹהוֹת טֶפַח, אֵין בֵּינֵיהֶם נִמְדָּד. וְאִם לָאו, בֵּינֵיהֶן נִמְדָּד:

א׳
Bartenura

השידה. נמדדת מבפנים – as it is taught in the Mishnah above (Tractate Kelim, Chapter 15, Mishnah 1), all wooden utensils that hold forty Seah in something moist, which are iron tools for crowding olives into the vat when dry, is ritually pure, that is a cubit by a cubit by a height of three cubits. And here there is a matter of dispute – how does one measure it? According to the School of Shammai, they measure the hollow that is within, and not the thickness of the walls and rims. But according to the School of Hillel, they measure except from the thickness of the legs and the vertical rim/edge (by which a flat vessel is made into a vessel-like receptacle) which he pressed/molded on the rim. And according to Rabi Yossi, hey measure the thickness of the legs of the chest and the vertical rim. But according to Rabbi Shimon, if its legs are not a handbreadth high, they measure even the airspace that is between each leg. But the Halakha is according to the School of Hillel in accordance with the first Tanna/teacher.

השידה. נמדדת מבפנים. דתנן לעיל (פרק ט״ו) כלי עץ שהמחזיק ארבעים סאה בלח שהן כוריים ביבש, טהור, והיינו אמה על אמה ברום שלש אמות. והכא קמיפלגי כיצד מודדים, לבית שמאי מודדין חלל שבפנים, ולא עובי הדפנות והשולים. ולבית הלל הכל מודדין, חוץ מעובי הרגלים ולבזבזים שהוא הזיר שעל השפה. ולר׳ יוסי מודדים אף עובי רגלי השידה והלבזבזים. ולר׳ שמעון אם אין רגליה גבוהים טפח מודדים אף האויר שבין רגל לרגל. והלכה כבית הלל אליבא דתנא קמא: