Mishnayos Shabbos Perek 8 Mishnah 7
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One who carries out a shard of earthenware on Shabbat is liable if it is in a measure equivalent to that which is used to place between one pillar and another when piled on the ground to separate them; this is the statement of Rabbi Yehuda. Rabbi Meir says: In a measure equivalent to that which is used to stoke a fire with it. Rabbi Yosei says: In a measure equivalent to that which is used to hold a quarter of a log in it. Rabbi Meir said: Although there is no proof for the matter, there is a biblical allusion to my opinion, as it is stated: “And He shall break it as a potter’s vessel is broken, smashing it without sparing; and there shall not be found among its pieces a shard to rake fire on the hearth” (Isaiah 30:14). Rabbi Yosei said to him: Is there proof from there? The verse concludes: “And to extract water from the cistern,” indicating that earthenware is significant if it is large enough to hold water.
חֶרֶס, כְּדֵי לִתֵּן בֵּין פַּצִּים לַחֲבֵרוֹ, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי יְהוּדָה. רַבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר, כְּדֵי לַחְתּוֹת בּוֹ אֶת הָאוּר. רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר, כְּדֵי לְקַבֵּל בּוֹ רְבִיעִית. אָמַר רַבִּי מֵאִיר, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין רְאָיָה לַדָּבָר, זֵכֶר לַדָּבָר (ישעיה ל), וְלֹא יִמָּצֵא בִמְכִתָּתוֹ חֶרֶשׂ לַחְתּוֹת אֵשׁ מִיָּקוּד. אָמַר לוֹ רַבִּי יוֹסֵי, מִשָּׁם רְאָיָה, וְלַחְשֹׂף מַיִם מִגֶּבֶא (שם):
Bartenura
בין פצים לחבירו. כשמסדרין פצימין ועמודין וקורות ועושין שורות של קורות על הארץ ויש חלל בין זו לזו סומכו תחתיו שלא יתעקם:
זכר לדבר. דחשיב חרס בחתיית האור:
לחשוף. לדלות:
מגבא. גומא קטנה שהמים נקבצים בה, אלמא חשיב חרס נמי בקבלת המים והלכה כרבי יוסי:
בין פצים לחבירו – when they arrange the boards and the pillars and the beams and make rows of beams on the ground, and there is a space tween this one and that one, we support it underneath so that it does not become curved.
זכר לדבר – for it is considered earthenware when taking the fire out in it.
לחשוף – to lift up/raise
מגבא – a small hole where the water is gathered in it, so we see that it is considered earthenware also in the receiving of water, and Halakha is according to Rabbi Yosi.