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Bava Kamma 10:4 - 10:5

The Mishnah Yomi for Friday, September 13, 2024 is Bava Kamma 10:4 - 10:5

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Mishnah 1

Mishnayos Bava Kamma Perek 10 Mishnah 4

בבא קמא פרק י׳ משנה ד׳

4
In a situation where this individual came with his barrel of wine, and that individual came with his jug of honey, if the barrel of honey cracked and this first individual poured out his wine and salvaged the other’s honey, which is worth more than the wine, by collecting it into his wine barrel, the owner of the wine has the right to collect only his wage, i.e., compensation for the effort he put into salvaging the honey. He is not, however, entitled to compensation for the wine itself. But if the owner of the wine said: I will salvage your honey and you will pay me the value of my wine, the owner of the honey is obligated to pay him compensation for the wine. Similarly, if a river washed away his donkey and the donkey of another, and his donkey was worth one hundred dinars and the donkey of the other was worth two hundred, and the individual with the less valuable donkey abandoned his donkey and instead salvaged the donkey of the other, he has the right to collect only his wage, i.e., compensation for the effort he put into salvaging his fellow’s donkey. But if he said to the owner of the more valuable donkey: I will salvage your donkey and you will pay me the monetary value of mine in exchange, the owner of the more valuable donkey is obligated to pay the rescuer compensation for his donkey.
זֶה בָּא בְחָבִיתוֹ שֶׁל יַיִן וְזֶה בָּא בְכַדּוֹ שֶׁל דְּבַשׁ. נִסְדְּקָה חָבִית שֶׁל דְּבַשׁ, וְשָׁפַךְ זֶה אֶת יֵינוֹ וְהִצִּיל אֶת הַדְּבַשׁ לְתוֹכוֹ, אֵין לוֹ אֶלָּא שְׂכָרוֹ. וְאִם אָמַר, אַצִּיל אֶת שֶׁלְּךָ וְאַתָּה נוֹתֵן לִי דְּמֵי שֶׁלִּי, חַיָּב לִתֵּן לוֹ. שָׁטַף נָהָר חֲמוֹרוֹ וַחֲמוֹר חֲבֵרוֹ, שֶׁלּוֹ יָפֶה מָנֶה וְשֶׁל חֲבֵרוֹ מָאתַיִם, הִנִּיחַ זֶה אֶת שֶׁלּוֹ וְהִצִּיל אֶת שֶׁל חֲבֵרוֹ, אֵין לוֹ אֶלָּא שְׂכָרוֹ. וְאִם אָמַר לוֹ, אֲנִי אַצִּיל אֶת שֶׁלְּךָ וְאַתָּה נוֹתֵן לִי אֶת שֶׁלִּי, חַיָּב לִתֵּן לוֹ:
ד׳

אין לו אלא שכרו – payment for the utensil and payment for the labor (of preserving the other’s honey).

שטף נהר חמורו – it is necessary to teach two segments of our Mishnah, for it (i.e., the Mishnah) had taught [only] the first part, I would think that it is there when he specifies, that they give him the cost of everything, because that which is in his hands, he loses when he spills his wine by his own hands for him. But in the concluding part [of the Mishnah] that of itself, I would say that he has nothing other than his salary/pay , but if we were to teach only the concluding section [of the Mishnah], here when it is undefined, he would have nothing other than his salary/payment of itself, but there (in the first part of the Mishnah dealing with a jar of wine and pitcher of honey) when it is in their hands, I would say, even when undefined, he should give him the cost of everything, Hence it is necessary [to teach both].

אין לו אלא שכרו. שכר כלי ושכר פעולה:

שטף נהר חמורו. צריכא למיתני תרי בבי דמתניתין. דאי תנא רישא הוה אמינא התם הוא דכי פירש יהיב ליה דמי כולה משום דבידים קא פסיד, ששפך את יינו בידים בשבילו, אבל סיפא דממילא, אימא אין לו אלא שכרו, ואי אשמועינן סיפא, הכא הוא דבסתמא אין לו אלא שכרו משום דממילא, אבל התם דבידים, אימא אפילו בסתמא יהיב ליה דמי כולה. צריכא:

Mishnah 2

Mishnayos Bava Kamma Perek 10 Mishnah 5

בבא קמא פרק י׳ משנה ה׳

5
In a case of one who robs a field from an-other and thugs [massikin] subsequently take the field from the robber, the halakha is dependent upon the circumstances: If it is a regional disaster in which the thugs seize all the property in the region, the robber says to the owner of the field: That which is yours is before you, i.e., it is your prerogative to try to reclaim it from the thugs. No compensation is required since the thugs would have seized the property in any event. But if the thugs took that field alone due to the robber, the robber is obligated to provide the owner with a different field. If a river flooded a misappropriated field, the robber may say to its owner: That which is yours is before you, and no compensation is required. Since the field would have been flooded in any case, the robber has not caused the damage to the field, and is therefore exempt.
הַגּוֹזֵל שָׂדֶה מֵחֲבֵרוֹ וּנְטָלוּהוּ מְסִיקִין, אִם מַכַּת מְדִינָה הִיא, אוֹמֵר לוֹ הֲרֵי שֶׁלְּךָ לְפָנֶיךָ, וְאִם מֵחֲמַת הַגַּזְלָן, חַיָּב לְהַעֲמִיד לוֹ שָׂדֶה אַחֶרֶת. שְׁטָפָהּ נָהָר, אוֹמֵר לוֹ, הֲרֵי שֶׁלְּךָ לְפָנֶיךָ:
ה׳

נטלוה מסיקין – violent men stole it from the thief. The Aramaic translation of [מסיקין] the shrieking of locusts (possibly cricket – see Talmud Bava Kamma 116b), for the locust is a thief, which eats other’s fields.

אם מכח מדינה היא – which took by force the fields of others with this.

ונטלוה מסיקין. אנסים גזלוה מן הגזלן. תרגום צלצל, סקאה. שהארבה גזלן הוא, שאוכל בשדות אחרים:

אם מכת מדינה היא. שאנסו קרקע של אחרים עם זו:

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