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Bava Metzia 5:1 - 5:2

The Mishnah Yomi for Tuesday, October 8, 2024 is Bava Metzia 5:1 - 5:2

Mishnah 1

Mishnayos Bava Metzia Perek 5 Mishnah 1

בבא מציעא פרק ה׳ משנה א׳

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The Torah states the prohibition against taking interest: “And if your brother becomes impoverished, and his hand falters with you, then you shall support him; whether a stranger or a native, he shall live with you. You shall not take from him interest [neshekh] or increase [tarbit]; you shall fear your God and your brother shall live with you. You shall not give him your money with neshekh and with marbit you shall not give him your food” (Leviticus 25:35–37). The mishna asks: Which is neshekh, and which is tarbit? Which is the case in which there is neshekh? With regard to one who lends another a sela, worth four dinars, for five dinars to be paid later, or one who lends another two se’a of wheat for three se’a to be returned later, this is prohibited, as it is taking interest [noshekh]. And which is the case in which there is tarbit? It is the case of one who enters into a transaction that yields an increase in the produce beyond his investment. How so? For example, one acquired wheat from another at the price of one kor of wheat for one gold dinar, worth twenty-five silver dinars, with the wheat to be supplied at a later date, and such was the market price of wheat at the time he acquired it. The price of one kor of wheat then increased and stood at thirty dinars. At that point, the buyer said to the seller: Give me all of my wheat now, as I wish to sell it and purchase wine with it. The seller said to him: Since it is ultimately wine that you want, not wheat, each kor of your wheat is considered by me to be worth thirty dinars, and you have the right to collect its value in wine from me. And in this case, the seller did not have wine in his possession. If wine then appreciates in value, the result will be an interest-bearing transaction, as the buyer collects from the seller wine worth more than the wheat for which he paid.
אֵיזֶהוּ נֶשֶׁךְ וְאֵיזֶהוּ תַרְבִּית. אֵיזֶהוּ נֶשֶׁךְ. הַמַּלְוֶה סֶלַע בַּחֲמִשָּׁה דִינָרִין, סָאתַיִם חִטִּין בְּשָׁלשׁ, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא נוֹשֵׁךְ. וְאֵיזֶהוּ תַרְבִּית, הַמַּרְבֶּה בְּפֵרוֹת. כֵּיצַד. לָקַח הֵימֶנּוּ חִטִּין בְּדִינַר זָהָב הַכּוֹר, וְכֵן הַשַּׁעַר, עָמְדוּ חִטִּין בִּשְׁלשִׁים דִּינָרִין, אָמַר לוֹ תֶּן לִי חִטַּי, שֶׁאֲנִי רוֹצֶה לְמָכְרָן וְלִקַּח בָּהֶן יָיִן. אָמַר לוֹ הֲרֵי חִטֶּיךָ עֲשׂוּיוֹת עָלַי בִּשְׁלשִׁים, וַהֲרֵי לְךָ אֶצְלִי בָּהֶן יָיִן, וְיַיִן אֵין לוֹ:
א׳

איזהו נשך שהוא נושך – that he took from him what he (i.e., the other) didn’t give him.

המרבה בפירות – he increases the reward for himself with produce, and whether by the loan of money or whether by the loan of produce it is interest, for he increases his money. But the concluding part of the Mishnah deals with Rabbinic interest, as it explains – which through the means of commercial transactions.

דינר זהב – twenty-five silver denars.

וכן השער – Such is how they were sold in the city, and it was permissible for him to give money now on the condition that he would give him the wheat all the days of the year with these monies according to the monetary rate, and even though that he doesn’t have the wheat right now. It is taught [in the Mishnah] of our chapter (Mishnah 7):, “when the market price is out, you may purchase, for although he (i.e., the seller) has not goods as yet, others have,” and this seller can purchase them now with these monies.

עמדו חטין בשלשים דינרים אמר לו תן לי חיטי – and this is permissible, if he gives him the wheat, but if he fixed a price to give him for them wine, it is prohibited, lest the wine become more expensive, for since he doesn’t have any wine. And even though he fixed a price with him according to the current market price of wine, and the market price had gone out. For since he doesn’t give him money that we would be able to say that he could purchase wine with these monies tha the received, but he makes the value of the wheat an obligation and to set a price on his obligation of wine, this is prohibited if he lacks wine. For if he had wine, it would be purchased to him from now to the person who comes to set a price on the obligation of wine, and when it went up in price, it was in his possession when it went up in price.

איזהו נשך. שהוא נושך. דשקל מיניה מאי דלא יהיב ליה:

המרבה בפירות. המרבה שכר לעצמו בפירות. ובין בהלואת כסף ובין בהלואת פירות הוי רבית. שהרי מתרבה ממונו. אלא דבסיפא, רבית דרבנן קמפרש שהוא דרך מקח וממכר:

דינר זהב. עשרים וחמשה דינרי כסף:

וכן השער. כך היו נמכרין בעיר. והותר לו לתת מעות עכשיו על מנת ליתן לו זה חטין כל ימות השנה בדמים הללו כשיעור מעותיו ואע״פ שעכשיו אין לו חטין, דתנן בפרקין יצא השער פוסקין, אע״פ שאין לזה יש לזה, ויכול המוכר הזה לקנותם עתה במעות הללו:

עמדו חטין בשלשים דינרין אמר לו תן לי חיטי. וזה מותר אם נתן לו חטין. אבל אם פסק לתת לו בהן יין, אסור, שמא יוקיר היין, הואיל ואין לו יין. ואע״פ שפוסק עמו כשער היין של עכשיו וכבר יצא השער, הואיל ואינו נותן לו דמים שנוכל לומר יכול הוא לקנות יין בדמים שקבל אלא בא לעשות עליו דמי החטין חוב ולפסוק על החוב יין, אסור אם יין אין לו. דאי הוה ליה יין, הוי קנוי לו מעכשיו לזה שבא לפסוק על החוב יין. וכי אייקר ברשותיה אייקר:

Mishnah 2

Mishnayos Bava Metzia Perek 5 Mishnah 2

בבא מציעא פרק ה׳ משנה ב׳

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One who lends another money may not reside in the borrower’s courtyard free of charge, nor may he rent living quarters from him at less than the going rate, because this is interest. The benefit he receives from living on the borrower’s property constitutes the equivalent of an additional payment as interest on the loan. One may increase the price of rent to be received at a later date instead of at an earlier one, but one may not similarly increase the price of a sale. How so? If a courtyard owner rented his courtyard to a renter, and the owner said to the renter: If you give me the payment now, the rental is yours for ten sela a year, but if you pay on a monthly basis it will cost a sela for each month, equaling twelve sela a year. Such a practice is permitted, despite the fact that he charges more for a monthly payment. If a field owner sold his field to a buyer and said to him: If you give me the payment now, it is yours for one thousand dinars, but if you wait and pay me at the time of the harvest, it is yours for twelve hundred dinars, this transaction is prohibited as interest.
הַמַּלְוֶה אֶת חֲבֵרוֹ, לֹא יָדוּר בַּחֲצֵרוֹ חִנָּם, וְלֹא יִשְׂכֹּר מִמֶּנּוּ בְּפָחוֹת, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא רִבִּית. מַרְבִּין עַל הַשָּׂכָר, וְאֵין מַרְבִּין עַל הַמֶּכֶר. כֵּיצַד. הִשְׂכִּיר לוֹ אֶת חֲצֵרוֹ, וְאָמַר לוֹ, אִם מֵעַכְשָׁיו אַתָּה נוֹתֵן לִי, הֲרֵי הוּא לְךָ בְּעֶשֶׂר סְלָעִים לְשָׁנָה, וְאִם שֶׁל חֹדֶשׁ בְּחֹדֶשׁ, בְּסֶלַע לְחֹדֶשׁ, מֻתָּר. מָכַר לוֹ אֶת שָׂדֵהוּ, וְאָמַר לוֹ, אִם מֵעַכְשָׁיו אַתָּה נוֹתֵן לִי, הֲרֵי הִיא שֶׁלְּךָ בְּאֶלֶף זוּז, אִם לַגֹּרֶן, בִּשְׁנֵים עָשָׂר מָנֶה, אָסוּר:
ב׳

מרבים על השכר – the wages in money for waiting for the rental.

ואין מרבין על המכר – the wages in waiting for the sale. And the reason is that the rental is not completely paid off until the end; therefore, when he takes from a Sela per month which is twelve Selas [per year], this is not the wages in waiting for the monies, for he was not obligated to pay him the rent until the end of the month, and that which he said to him: “if you give it to me now, it is yours for ten Selas, if he would give it to him early, he would forgive him the cost of the rental and diminish it for him for less than its value. But regarding a sale, then you make use of the object and the law is to give the money, and when he (i.e., the seller) says to him (i.e., the buyer): “if from now you give me, it is yours for one-thousand zuz, which is its cost and if it has already been at the granary, it is the reward for waiting for the monies [and is forbidden, as interest].

מכר לו את השדה – And the same law applies for movables, and all business, if he sold it to him for more than its worth with the wages for waiting for the monies, it is forbidden, for it is the dust of interest according to the Rabbis And all dust of interest (i.e., indirect interest), if he gave it, it is not reclaimed through judges, whereas stipulated/direct usury from the Torah, is reclaimed through judges [i.,e in court] (see Talmud Bava Metzia 61b).

מרבין על השכר. בשכר המתנת מעות השכירות:

ואין מרבין על המכר. בשכר המתנת המקח. וטעמא, משום דשכירות אינה משתלמת אלא לבסוף, הלכך כי שקיל מיניה סלע בחודש דהוו להו שתים עשרה סלעים אין זה שכר המתנת מעות, שהרי לא נתחייב לשלם לו שכירות עד סוף החודש, והאי דאמר ליה אם עכשיו תתן לי הרי היא שלך בעשר סלעים, אי הוה מקדים ליה הוה מחיל ליה מדמי השכירות ומוגר ליה בפחות משויה. אבל גבי מכר משמשך המקח דינו ליתן המעות. וכי אמר ליה אם מעכשיו תתן הרי היא לך באלף זוז, הן הן דמיה, וכי מטפי עלייהו לגורן, שכר המתנת מעות הוא:

מכר לו את השדה וכו׳ והוא הדין מטלטלין וכל סחורה אם מכר לו יותר משויה בשכר המתנת מעות, אסור, והוי אבק רבית מדבריהם. וכל אבק רבית אם נתן אינה יוצאה בדיינים. דאילו רבית קצוצה דאורייתא יוצאה בדיינים:

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