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Mishnayos Nedarim Perek 6 Mishnah 6

נדרים פרק ו׳ משנה ו׳


One who vows that meat is forbidden to him is permitted to eat gravy and sediments of boiled meat [kifa]. But Rabbi Yehuda maintains that he is prohibited from eating them. Rabbi Yehuda said: There was an incident where one took such a vow and Rabbi Tarfon prohibited us from even eggs that were cooked with meat. The Rabbis said to him: Indeed so, but when is this the halakha? When he says: This meat is forbidden to me, referring to a specific piece of meat. This is because in the case of one who vows that an item is forbidden to him, and it becomes mixed into another item, if the latter contains an amount of the forbidden food that gives it flavor, i.e., the forbidden food can be tasted in the permitted food, the mixture is forbidden. However, if one vows that meat in general is forbidden to him, without specifying a particular piece, only the meat itself is forbidden, not the gravy, sediments, or eggs cooked with that meat.

הַנּוֹדֵר מִן הַבָּשָׂר, מֻתָּר בַּרֹטֶב וּבַקִּפָּה. וְרַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹסֵר. אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוּדָה, מַעֲשֶׂה וְאָסַר עָלַי רַבִּי טַרְפוֹן בֵּיצִים שֶׁנִּתְבַּשְּׁלוּ עִמּוֹ. אָמְרוּ לוֹ, וְכֵן הַדָּבָר, אֵימָתַי, בִּזְמַן שֶׁיֹּאמַר בָּשָׂר זֶה עָלָי, שֶׁהַנּוֹדֵר מִן הַדָּבָר וְנִתְעָרֵב בְּאַחֵר, אִם יֶשׁ בּוֹ בְנוֹתֵן טַעַם, אָסוּר:


מותר ברוטב ובקיפה (broth and sediments of boiled meat) – the broth that is curdled on the rims of the pot is called קיפה/sediments of boiled meat.

רבי יהודה אוסר – since it has the taste of meat. But the Halakha is not according to Rabbi Yehuda.

אימתי בזמן שאמר בשר זה עלי – for since he said, “this meat,” this piece [of meat] is considered ass something forbidden and its taste is forbidden. But if he said, KONAM, this meat upon me, he did not forbid upon himself other than the things that is called meat.

מותר ברוטב ובקיפה. רוטב הנקפה בשולי הקדרה נקרא קיפה:

רבי יהודה אוסר. הואיל ויש בו טעם בשר. ואין הלכה כרבי יהודה:

אימתי בזמן שאמר בשר זה עלי. דכיון שאמר בשר זה, שוייה עליה חתיכה דאיסורא ואסור בטעמו. אבל אם אמר קונם בשר עלי, לא אסר עצמו אלא בדבר הנקרא בשר: