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Mishnayos Bava Basra Perek 9 Mishnah 8

בבא בתרא פרק ט׳ משנה ח׳

8

A house collapsed on a son and upon his father, or upon a certain person and upon those from whom he stands to inherit, and it is unknown who died first. If the son bore the responsibility to pay the marriage contract of his wife and to pay a creditor, and the son had no money with which to pay them except that which he might inherit from his father, and the father’s heirs say: The son died first and afterward the father died, and therefore the son did not inherit property from his father, and the creditors say: The father died first and afterward the son died, resulting in the son’s inheriting his father’s property, enabling the creditors to collect payment from the property even after the son’s death, there is a dispute with regard to how to rule. Since it cannot be determined who died first, Beit Shammai say: They divide the property between them so that the father’s heirs receive half of his property and the son’s creditors receive the other half. And Beit Hillel say: The property retains its previous ownership status. Since the last known owner of the property was the father, the property is given to the father’s heirs.

נָפַל הַבַּיִת עָלָיו וְעַל אָבִיו אוֹ עָלָיו וְעַל מוֹרִישָׁיו, וְהָיְתָה עָלָיו כְּתֻבַּת אִשָּׁה וּבַעַל חוֹב, יוֹרְשֵׁי הָאָב אוֹמְרִים, הַבֵּן מֵת רִאשׁוֹן וְאַחַר כָּךְ מֵת הָאָב, בַּעֲלֵי הַחוֹב אוֹמְרִים, הָאָב מֵת רִאשׁוֹן וְאַחַר כָּךְ מֵת הַבֵּן, בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים, יַחֲלֹקוּ. וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים, נְכָסִים בְּחֶזְקָתָן:

ח׳
Bartenura

יורשי האב אומרים הבן מת ראשון – and the creditor cannot collect from these properties for the son never took possession of them.

ובעלי החוב אומרים האב מת ראשון – and the properties fell one hour before the son and they are mortgaged to the marriage contract of his wife and the creditors.

בית שמאי אומרים יחלוקו – the School of Shammai holds that the document that stands to be collected is considered as collected, and the inheritors of the father and the creditors, both of them are in possession. Therefore, they divide it.

ובית הלל אומרים – the property is in the possession of the inheritors and is seen as possessed, and the creditor comes to take it from their hands, and he has to bring proof that the father died first.

יורשי האב אומרים הבן מת ראשון. ואין בעל חוב יכול להפרע מנכסים אלו שהרי לא זכה בהן הבן מעולם:

ובעלי החוב אומרים האב מת ראשון. ונפלו הנכסים שעה אחת לפני הבן. והם משועבדים לכתובת אשה ובעלי חוב:

בית שמאי אומרים יחלוקו. דקסברי בית שמאי שטר העומד לגבות כגבוי דמי, ויורשי האב ובעלי חוב תרווייהו מוחזקים הוו, לפיכך יחלוקו:

ובית הלל אומרים. הנכסים בחזקת יורשים וכמוחזקים דמו ובעל חוב בא להוציא מידם ועליו להביא ראיה שהאב מת תחילה: